not to mention...we all bought the game played the game for years i never once got an email from LA or SOE saying thank you for paying for 5 accounts occasionally a 6th(when the wife wanted to play)Never once did (im sure all of the swg players) we even get the common curtesy of George Lucas saying his real reasoning behind pulling the plug.(though i know it was tor) In the LA website swg players for years are treated like we are the redheaded stepchild that LA wishes they didnt have. I have been a LIFELONG FAN of Star Wars and anything related. And then for us to post on a George Lucas site we have to post in the other forum the very last line...we didnt even get treated to our own forum like the rest of the crap games above Other. Every one of those games above other my 9 year old can play...takes absolutely no skill to play those...just a few minutes of your time. Please let SOE bring back our game...payed or unpaid i could care or less...i just want it back. so you by the lightswitch please flip that thing back to the up position.

That is true for me too. SWTOR was enjoyable until you reach 50, and then it is just not worth it. It is like paying a monthly fee to Mass Effect 3 (A single player game with multiplayer options)

Many people had multiple accounts in SWG, and spent loads on the TCG, as the game was worth it. For it to get shut down the way it did, just sucks. The game was far from dead when they announced the shut down, it was increasing, and about a week before the shutdown announcement they had to lock down 2 more servers to transfers as they had become FULL, and another one was getting full then. The free transfers and the unplanned 45 days brought the game back to life. The breach was a blessing in disguise for SWG, and LA wasted that opportunity. Also if the game was dying they would have given 1-3 months notice for closure, and not 6 months.

Also, Happy 9th Anniversary, SWG

Edited by: Flango on Jun 27, 2012 3:45 AM

I would as well for my 4 ACCOUNTS (PROVIDED i could get my 2011 characters back with all items and the 1.3 billion credits and my DiK and Dath Prison Painting and Bacta Tanks (pre-CU village not treasure box crap) and my Elder Ranger Master Commando/Master Dancer/Master DE)

And a lot of SW fans are not playing an MMO because they want a good, immersive, deep story, and not a room full of 12 year olds.

This is my 2 cents as if LA really needed it:

If nothing more but to satisfy the public on Star Wars Galaxies.

Please reopen servers to satisfy the masses that realy did love this game at one point or another.
If nothing else you would profit from the content that was already there.

Open
1 Pre-cu server(add more if needed)
1 Pre-cu test center

1 Cu server(add more if needed)
1 Cu test center

1 Nge server(add more if needed)
1 Nge test center

This would at least satisfy the masses that did love this game in its haydays of each major upgrade. This way each person that say loved the Cu could play on those servers. In my personal opinion do not allow server transfers unless there was a need to close a server. (In my personal opinion I would have been perfectly happy back on my original server) I had 4 accounts and the freedom to do whatever i chose in game. had really great friends Only reason i ever quit playing was because the announcement to shut off the servers. So I didnt even get to experience the final days which after reading some peoples comments wish i would have kept playing. This was and is by far the best mmo i have ever played. Tor is nothing but a limited wow clone. even wow is more open than tor...i was extremely dissapointed to see the many limitations of tor. i was a space junky that probably spent more time in space to see it reduced to tempest(showing my age here) was very very very stomach churning. All i have to say is thank god for screen shots of swg so i can look at all of the old stuff i used to do and my houses my ships and stuff of that nature.

I do not think it will involve much resources to bring back SWG, but it is more down to pride and SOE and LA possibly falling out, as after SWG closed Smedley stated that going forward they will largely going to concentrate on their own IPs, as will not have this problem of having to shut down a game, before its time, which shows he was a but annoyed by LA as they have put him off dealing with outside IPs

SWG is already written, and so will not need $300 million to create, just needs some who will be able to host it. I am sure there are some SWG fans who would be willing to host it for you for free. SWG is well worth the money. The only money involved maybe to buy SOE back, or buy the code off them, if they are the ones who still have it and not LA

As stated earlier SWG showed the potential of F2P when SOE customers were given 45 free days, which quadupled the population. If the game was ongoing free and not just 45 days then more would have played too, and then if offererd to everyone then a tonne more would have played on top. I bet most of those playing the full 45 days would have resubbed too, but did not, because SOE announceed it shutdown. If people were only logging in to test the game briefly they would not have sustained 4 full servers for the solid 45 days. SOE/LA lost a lot of revenue in subs by announcing the shutdown when they did.

If SWG came back as F2P, I reckon it would need at least 10 servers, unless can utilise megaservers.

SWG F2P IMO would bring in more overall long term revenue than SWTOR F2P.

The only thing holding SWG back was the monthly fee and its bad rep. Make it F2P people will it a go and then get hooked, and it will eventually be as popular as Minecraft, which has sold over 2 million on PC and Xbox 360 each. Personally I find Minecrafts graphics to be too blocky, but loads of people do not mind.

Edited by: Flango on Jun 15, 2012 4:31 AM

I see that this thread really has no voice to Lucas Arts. This is simply a spot to catch the ire and anger of the SWG former players. If it allows fellow gamers to connect then it earns its place among Lucas Arts forums, but thats as far as they care for it.

It is well known, that many folks behind SWG hated the community and forums of SWG as a poisionious cess pool of hate. The value of community, server, and/or game pride was completely overshadowed by trolling, rage and negativity. This brought on the view that the "players ruined the game." They tolerated it only as far as it kept players paying.

With TOR, the forums are little more than a hype tool to promote the game. Any strong comment or opinion is deleted and all sense of community is stifled with no server based forums. Im sure they feel if the players want server congergation they can make it themselves, which many did. Lucas Arts learned many leasons from SWG and put them in practice with TOR. The thing is they undervalue the positives of these tools in TOR. So what if two guilds fight a ingame and forum war? In the end, players generate memories of good fights and competition. Sometimes those enemies (in a game mind you) become stronger friends. Game drama has multiple outcomes and is always best when it ends in laughter. I pity Lucas Arts in not understanding fully why they don't have a thriving growing TOR community.

Is this the one reason TOR is failing? No, the game is not designed to support gamer communities with daily activities of expanded measure. Bioware is a great RPG maker but needs more support in the MMO circle. For TOR to turn around they are going to have to invest in more than thier Fourth Pillar.

If all these other features of MMO's are so important then why did SWG fail? SWG was a buggy mess from launch to half way into the NGE era. There were plenty of problems up until closing but the game breaking stuff had been fixed well before then. What killed SWG was the launch of the NGE. The game culture had been built around finally unlocking the Alpha Class Jedi. All those players investment in the game was simply wiped away for a subpar melee class Jedi. It was easily interpered that the existing player-base was not a concern and a new target demgraphic was first choice. "Don't let the door hit you in the butt." This event echoed in forums across the internet labeling SWG a terriable game and you could not trust those that made it. This locked out both targeted and non-targeted players. A damn hard lesson that affected the whole industry.

I believe Lucas Arts is doing what it does best and is moving forward. Abandoning past investments and launching a new "Hotness". Star Wars 1313 anyone?

IMHO.

Well, I personally do not care if TOR does well or not, as I do not like the limited MMO gameplay it offers, however, the problem I see with TOR is that it also does not hold the players it was trying to atract.

SWG on the otehr side certainly had a lot of missed potentual, but at every phase of the game (besides maybe the first 6 month after the NGE) it had more to offer than most other games.

It seems a shame that LA never saw this and that this all of the good work done on SWG is never to see daylight again.

I miss the last days of SWG ... atmospheric flight, ship to gound combat, NPC invasions on the ground and in space with forced pvp for the last phase, everything went tradeable, players could craft the best items in game (besdies heroic sets), world PVP that changed planet status and reward points, PVP zone and local zones that could be controled by each faction, NPC drops on faction missions with high level elites, guildes could declare faction and home zones (and got bonus options for controling them), Player cities had the same features (so really you could have two home zones), ful export of all guild and pvp battelfield stat to XML ... and there is more that I did not even mention because it always stayed with SWG (player housing, real space combat, etc. etc)

I agree that it is not likely that LA will just have SOE reopen some SWG Servers again, though to be honest, I would be signing up for it in a minute.

The truth is LA lied to us, treated as scum and forget we invested 8 years of our life in their game , spending our money btw.

We realize the numbers were very low, but keep 2 servers running one NGE and other "Classic PRe-CU" could be a great idea and a small cash flow , also a positive image for the company.

We are sure LA is spending much more money in weird things like pay good reviews from sites for their games, when keep their player base happy is better and cheaper for sure.

I'm one of those dissapointed customers who don't hesitate in talk crap about swtor at every forum, and in par is fault of your poor decisions (also the crappy game helps alot)

I would like to know Why is not possible for LA run a SW:G server for the people who wants to paly a real SW experience.

I asume the SWG engine now belongs to LA, otherwise I don't know why they asked to SOE for delete it.

I think run a SWG server as if it were part of a virtual SW tour will be a great add for the starwars.com site.

"Live your own life in the SW universe, visit the planets, meet the characters and...build your own home!!"

But if Lucas thinks is too much work or money for him, just let the game code be free to use for the fans, we can run private servers by our own ways.

SWG had too much work and good ideas for just let it pass away. Too many people worked in create real virtual worlds and they and their fans deserve much more than a "disconnected from server" move along, move along...

Dude, anything would be great than stay a the fleet waiting for a warzone to pop up.!

SWTOR is nice for a solo game but is terribad as MMO and don't say about MMORPG.

LA and SOE should sit again, see the numbers of EA/BW (the real ones, 36 people at fleet, peak time 19.00 GMT, 96 at entire server. Basilisk Droid 3 weeks ago) and talk about the chances of restore the faith of many customers.

The best way for gain new customers is try to mend the old mistakes, apologize if needed and try to not commit new ones. BW/EA are commiting the same old mistakes than SOE, but nowdays there are much more things to compete with.

SWG was not a menace for SWTOR, not even the bad press of the game was in fact..., at this moment the worst menace for SWTOR is the SWTOR.

Read the forums, so many people is realizing that SWG was not so bad as they used to be forced to think, that have a SWG server would be a cool backup for keep fans paying for the IP.

People is leavig in droves and letting their money in other IPs, think about.