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darth zavier

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 12:22 PM   in response to: Guyper in response to: Guyper
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Cool.
Guyper

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 8:53 AM   in response to: darth zavier in response to: darth zavier
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darth zavier

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 6:54 AM   in response to: Guyper in response to: Guyper
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I like the new hair better.
Guyper

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 6:02 AM   in response to: JediMudkip in response to: JediMudkip
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I'm sorry, Lucasarts(JediMudkip) but saying that we can just switch to old school mode if the new hair bothers us that much, then what's the point for us to buy it then? I can just play back my CD-ROM version thanks to Dosbox.

If the special edition was mainly aimed for gamers who had never heard of Monkey Island, then me and other long-time Monkey Island fans would have shut up.

And I'd like to point out that Ryan Williams, the user above me, pretty much nailed the new in-game hair's problem. I did an improvement of my own over the hair as well. Please compare them and see the major significant

1st hair: http:/ /img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Guyper/Guybrusholdhair.jpg

2nd hair: http:/ /img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Guyper/Guybrushnewhair.jpg

Now, he really looks like the young energetic Guybrush Threepwood who's eager to become a pirate with the 2nd hair. It took me less than 10 minutes to change it, I believe it should take only a few extra days for Lucasarts to fix the hair in every dialog scenes as well which would be no problem at all.

I'm sorry Lucasarts, but we would hate to see Guybrush getting tarnish like that. Yes, it's even worse than the ones from Escape from Monkey Island and The Tales of Monkey Island
Ryan Williams

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 2:33 AM   in response to: JediMudkip in response to: JediMudkip
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In fact, here's a rushed approximation of the kind of thing I was describing above as I suspect I might not have been entirely clear:

http://serve. ryanjohnwilliams.com/images/guybrush_hair.jpg
Ryan Williams

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 2:27 AM   in response to: JediMudkip in response to: JediMudkip
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I think a fantastic job has been done of the new art style, and to be honest I think Guybrush's hair looks fine.

However, for some reason his in-game hair doesn't quite look right when compared to the close-ups and cover art. I think it's a lighting issue, because although he's clearly not meant to be bald on the sides he does actually look bald on the side in-game.

I think this is what bothers people the most, and I've even heard people comparing the look to the Hitler Youth! I think if the lighting were tweaked so it looks more like a smooth continuation of hair rather than side baldness ? probably achieved by dampening the excessive dark shadows on the underside of his hair ? it'd look absolutely fine.

Still, if the game is officially signed off I guess feedback like this is of no use.
ThunderPeel2001


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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 5, 2009 1:41 AM   in response to: Gov. Phatt in response to: Gov. Phatt
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You don't need the old face, just the new hair will
do:

http://f arm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3595966260_af8dddfeab_o.jpg


WOW! That looks SO much better! If you could do the same for the in game SPRITE (which is the only truly horrendously unforgivable thing) that would be AWESOME.

Mr LucasArts: Thanks for replying. Can I ask... how easy will it be for us "purists" to meddle with the graphics ourselves? That way we can ALL be happy!
JediMudkip


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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 10:57 PM   in response to: Guyper in response to: Guyper
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Hey guys - just got back from E3,so I really haven't been ignoring you. It' been a crazy week!

The hair thing came up more then once at E3 as well, and Twitter was aflutter about it as well. I'll answer the same way we've been answering - the hair was done the way it was so it's in line with Monke 3, 4, and the new Tales of Monkey Island. The tough part was making him VERY young (as he was in the first) and have the hair help represent that. With that in mind, it's actually great hair.

But of course, you purists are more then welcome to switch to old school mode and avoid the hair entirely. We undersand if you do. But give the hair a chance!
Guyper

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 7:46 PM   in response to: ThunderPeel2001 in response to: ThunderPeel2001
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I agree that the new guybrush looks like a retard, and he was never a blond guy in the first place.

If Lucasarts really meant it when they said that they want it to be faithful to the original, then they better do something about his hair, face and walking animation.
darth zavier

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 12:42 PM   in response to: Gov. Phatt in response to: Gov. Phatt
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That's neat, thanks!
Gov. Phatt

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 10:58 AM   in response to: ThunderPeel2001 in response to: ThunderPeel2001
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You don't need the old face, just the new hair will do:

http://f arm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3595966260_af8dddfeab_o.jpg
diablo2man1

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 8:35 AM   in response to: ThunderPeel2001 in response to: ThunderPeel2001
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I really hope the voices are there when you switch to the old art, but in all the gameplay videos they are not.
Chief05

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 7:30 AM   in response to: ThunderPeel2001 in response to: ThunderPeel2001
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Yeah Guybrush doesn't look perfect.
It's like they tried to keep the MI3 style, but wanted a more realistic look of his face.
And his hair is.... well... it's a matter of taste. :P

Nonetheless the game will be great, I'm looking forward to the voice-overs.

The modified picture looks great, though! :)

@diablo
I read in other forums, that the voices and the music will stay, if you switch to the original graphics.
I think otherwise it wouldn't really make sense, keeping out the voices. ^^

But i can't guarantee that, maybe I'm mistaken ^^
diablo2man1

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Re: SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 7:21 AM   in response to: ThunderPeel2001 in response to: ThunderPeel2001
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I agree that the new Guybrush looks quite bad. He looks like he's balding to me.
Unfortunately the game is already finished.
It's stated in this video fromE3
http://e3.g amespot.com/video/6211404/?hd=1&tag=live-schedule

I really hope you get the voices when you're playing with the classic art, but doesn't look like it :(
ThunderPeel2001


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SAVE GUYBRUSH!!!
Posted: Jun 4, 2009 5:45 AM
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Ok, I've had time to watch the videos and learn more about the new Special Edition. Amazingly, these guys appear to have done a damned stellar job. The voice-acting seems spot-on, the backgrounds are absolutely faithful, the music seems sweet. They really done something for the fans!

There is one small flaw, however... The new Guybrush sprite looks TERRIBLE.

http://www.thunderpee l2001.com/webpics/fckhead.jpg

Dear lord god almighty... No. Somewhere along the line somebody mixed up "guileless" with Guile from Street Fighter. There isn't an ounce of charm or likeability within this character... Something that is ESSENTIAL to enjoying Monkey Island.

Compare with the following:
htt p://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/sithgoblin/guybrushmockup.jpg

Please, LucasArts, I think you've done a brilliant job on the new Monkey Island. It's exactly what we wanted, don't fail at this final hurdle!
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