*pc fans: lucas arts the pc told me terrible things, that you turned to the consol side and that you murdered little pc games.
lucas arts: The pc is lying their trying to turn you against me, cant you see we will make star wars games better than ever on consoles
pc fans: All i want is your games come and leave the console behind while you can.
lucas arts: dont you see i'm more powerful than microsoft know i can over throw them and together we will rule the console galaxy.
pc fans: pc was right you've changed, I dont kow you anymore.
lucas arts: the mac turned against me dont you too.
pc fans: please stop before its to late, dont make me leave you.
crysis walks out
lucas arts: Nooo, force chokes pc fans. You brought crysis to destroy me, you betrayed me.
crysis: put the pc down, you have let the new lucas arts president twist you into the very thing you swore to destroy.
lucas arts: dont lecture me i'm more powerful than ever and soon the gaming world will be under my grasp.
crysis: only consoles deal in absolutes.
crazy fight erupts but eventually
crysis: dont do it i have dx10
lucas arts: you underestimate the console power
jumps in the air and gets hacked up
crysis: I didn't want to do this but you left me no chose
lucas arts: I HATE YOU
lucas arts go bankrupt
lucas arts: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
crysis walks off talking lucas arts ideals and what made them so great.
lol i couldn't resist.
I swear lucas arts you have burned the bridge between pc fans and you.*
There're so many great games coming out to the PC this year, Quake Wars, Crysis, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, World in Conflict, Hellgate: London... just to name a few, so I really couldn't care less about Fracture not being on the PC. When was the last time LA actually released a 9/10 rated, GOTY contending multiplatform game? Not since original KOTOR. Chances are Fracture is gonna suck just like most of their recent games do.
Just been having a quick read. I've noticed the topic of consoles vs PCs is ever more prevalent nowadays.
I personally prefer PC gaming, but I do not discount consoles. In some ways I see why it seems that devs favour consoles. Namely that they only have to build to single standard architectures.
Granted it has been on the backs of PCs and its gamers that many companies made their fortunes. Ultimately things have to move on.
Doesn't mean the PC should be abandoned. As hardware capabilities increase in size and performance, it's expected that the games will too...again its all time consuming and money. So time will have to be shared, thus its no surprise that the past few yrs have seen fewer PC game releases.
This trend will probably continue till development stablises on all platforms...meaning the power of the XBox360, PS3, and Wii have been FULLY utilised.
In the meantime the PC will continue to increase in efficiency and performance. As such it has probably surpassed consoles in this aspect already.
Wouldn't surprise me if you find XP or Vista with a ' Game Mode ' update...an ability to modify the PC so CPU, RAM, storage operations become more console-like some time in the future.
The times to come in the gaming calender will be very interesting for all I think
Meh, consoles are so overrated, in my opinion. The one thing consoles actually are good for is making multiplaying more social. It doesn't however make up for the huge loss in oppurtunities opening up for editing and what not in the PC games. Hell, I still play Star Wars Rebellion due to its life being prolonged through editing.
As for graphics, it'll be better on the console (in most cases), but I guess that all comes down to how important you think graphics are. To me, it means very little. I'd rather have a great game to play rather then a beautiful game with little content.
It'd be nice to see another Lucas Arts title being released to the PC soon, I've been quite dissapointed learning that neither Fracture or Force Unleashed will be released for the PC.
Might I say, statistics report that the PC market(in terms of revenue), is actually BIGGER than the console market. Don't believe me?
Not so much, no. I dont believe you. If you have something to show me to prove otherwise, I'll listen, but I find it hard to believe.
I'm thinking PC gaming is not dying
I dont think PC gaming is dying, I'm just saying it's not as strong as console gaming as a whole.
Consider World of Warcraft. Blizzard didn't even release one game last year. look at their revenues now.
Point? I dont see the relavence, the game companies made a lot of money too last year...
between the PS3's $500+ price and the lack of any earth shattering leaps forward in next-gen games,*
I disagree about the "lack of earth shattering" bit. The consoles are brand new (aside from the 360), it'll take a while to start seeing the really high quality stuff from them, it always does. But just in graphics alone the PS3 and 360 show major improvements over the previous gen stuff, especially if you have an HD-TV.
Might I say, statistics report that the PC market(in terms of revenue), is actually BIGGER than the console market. Don't believe me? Consider World of Warcraft. Blizzard didn't even release one game last year. look at their revenues now. IMO, between the PS3's $500+ price and the lack of any earth shattering leaps forward in next-gen games, I'm thinking PC gaming is not dying. Perhaps it is consoles that will end up failing. Now i am not putting down LA or Sony, or even MS, but IMO the PS3 and 360 might very well be the last great consoles. So it is at LA's disadvantage to leave the PC market.
on a completely unrelated note i would like to know is why halo wars is not for PC - or any RTS for that matter. RTS is (or should be) a PC only genre - the micro just doesnt work with a controller, you need the keyboard and mouse to really play RTS. shooter, OK, but RTS? No, RTS is a PC genre.
on topic, yes, if your pc is worth lots (like mine used to be) then its not all that much to upgrade it, but take into account the fact that you can't upgrade a console like you can a PC - my next planned upgrade will be to dual quad-core processors. beat that, ps3! and if they port fracture and TFU to PC, i will love LA for at least 6 months until this happens again
How do you figure they're abandoning PC users? As I pointed out earlier, all the Battlefront, KotOR, and Lego Starwars games came out for PC, as did Republic Commando, and Empire at War came out exclusively for the PC.
They're abandoning PC users because they last two games they've announced arent going to launch on the PC? There will probably be another game or two announced this year, maybe more. Besides, they'll probably port these games to the PC 6 months to a year after they're released.
allow me to point out that for the price of a ps3 or 360, not the Wii though, i can upgrade my pc to beat the crap out of whatever console i bought. with quad-core processors hitting the market, consoles are going to fall far behind in terms of performance
That's only true if you already own an expensive PC. And that's not even true currently, the PS3's processor is much more powerful than any PC processor out there, even than a Quad-core. Do the research like I have, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Boo-figgin-hoo. So this game isnt for the PC. Get
over it. They're making a business decision that
seems to be working just fine for plenty of other
companies. Titles have always been made exclusively
for consoles, just not by LA. This time that's how it
will happen. Maybe 6 months or a year after it's been
released they'll port it over, but honestly, Halo and
Halo 2 proved that you can have a good console FPS if
it's designed specifically for consoles. I think
there's a market for it and I think LA knows what
it's doing. The game looks fantastic, and you cant
call yourself a gamer these days if you only buy
games for a single console or just the PC. There's
too much content out there that you miss, really
really good content, if you only own one. If you dont
want to buy a console, fine, dont, but you're missing
out on a lot of good games to begin with, this is
just another game on that list.
allow me to point out that for the price of a ps3 or 360, not the Wii though, i can upgrade my pc to beat the crap out of whatever console i bought. with quad-core processors hitting the market, consoles are going to fall far behind in terms of performance. PCs have always been ahead of the console game (cant justify that, though), and always will. while it is true that LA may make more $$$ from NOT releasing the games on PC (i dont know how or why) they must look to the future, not the present, and think about what will happen if they alienate PC gamers (like me) who would consider not buying LA PC games because they left us out of the loop previously.
Big deal, the year is only getting started as far as game announcements go.
In addition, in the future, as console price climbs, owning multiples will eventually be impossible, making the PC the best way to play.
Talk about a biased opinion. The average console gamer owns more than one console as it is. I own all three of the previous generation consoles and I intend to own all three current gen consoles by around this time next year if not before then. And a high quality PC is ALWAYS gonna be more expensive than a console. If you want to keep up with the PC industry, you have to buy new stuff every year, and every 3-5 years you have to buy a whole new PC (wow, just like the consoles). Right now my PC runs at the lower quality levels for all the new games coming out, I need to upgrade it, but to do so I'll need to buy a new motherboard, new processor, new video card, a physics enhancement card, new RAM, etc. That's gonna cost me more than it will to buy all three consoles. Unless of course I buy products that arent top of the line, in which case I have to upgrade my PC even sooner. And in addition to all that, with PC games you have to worry about the game being compatible with your hardware. You dont have the problem with a console game; everyone's system is exactly the same. It's much easier to program for a console than a PC.
So again, my favorite platform to play on is the PC, but that doesn't mean I dont play on consoles. Every platform has something to offer, even if it's just exclusive games. To say that the PC is the dominating platform is just plain wrong, and to say that it's the one that makes most sense to develop for doesn't take into account any of the facts. You're welcome to like it best (just as I do), but dont try to tell me the other platforms dont make any sense. If you dont like consoles, dont buy one, but you're missing out on some of the best games that have come out in the last 20 years.
I agree completely. It costs relatively little for a company to port a game to another platform, and by failing to do so, LA loses a large market.
That depends entirely on the quality of the port. And they have to take into account whether enough people will buy the PC version to justify the additional cost. Games that are designed for consoles often dont play nearly as well on the PC. Halo for example. That game was designed to be played on the Xbox and it's horrible to try to play on the PC. The same is true of games designed for the PC that are moved to a console; they just dont play as good. I always choose to buy the game for the platform it's being designed for so I can play the best version of the game. LA knows this is how many gamers make their decisions and they have to decide if anyone will actually buy the game for the PC. And if they decide to port it to the PC, the might wait 6 months or a year to do so, they've done that often in the past. All we know for certain is that the game wont be on the PC when it's initially launched.
More importantly, by failing to announce any games for the PC, they lose costomer loyalty; which will be very hard to reclaim. By not releasing anything for PC they change themselves as a company and must find someone else to play with.
Apparently you havent been paying much attention; LA has already found other people to play with. LA games have been very successful on the console market of late, I hear more people talk about playing Battlefront and lego starwars on a console than on a PC. And I dont blame them, these games feel like console games, not PC game.
And you make it sound like LA hasnt released any PC games in a long time. Empire at War came out only last year and was exclusive to the PC. All the KotOR, Lego Starwars, and Battlefront games have come out for the PC in addition to the console as well as Republic Commando. So LA hasnt announced any new PC games so far this year.
If your suggesting someone should buy a brand new console just because they want to play one game, well then your an idiot...sorry.
Firstly, calling me an idiot is flaming. I'm not gonna report it or anything, I'm just giving you a friendly warning because I know how the mods here work. You can call my ideas stupid, but once you call me stupid, it's flaming. Now you can call me stupid all day and I wont care, just keep this in mind with other people, no reason for you to get banned over a simple discussion.
Secondly, you didn't read what I wrote. I never said people should buy a console for just one game. I said "If you dont want to buy a console, fine, dont, but you're missing out on a lot of good games to begin with, this is just another game on that list." My point being that there are huge quantities of great games available for the consoles that are only available for the consoles. If you choose not to buy a console, this isnt the only game you'll be missing out on. LA knows that. If they release this game only for the 360 and PS3, they know they will be alienating the PC market. They wouldn't do that unless the rewards for keeping it on the consoles outweighed the costs. Perhaps Sony and Microsoft are giving them incentives for keeping it on their consoles, like that they'll give LA a larger percent of the profits or something, I dont know. Your suggestion that game companies should make all games for the PC doesn't make any sense, you arent taking into account the size of the console market. I'm not saying the PC should be ignored, its my favorite platform to play games on, but there are economic reasons why it makes sense for them to make the game only for the consoles. You dont have to like it but you do have to live with it. You'll just have to wait for the next PC game to come out.
obviously the majority of gamers want games for the PC.
How do you figure that the majority of gamers want PC games? The console market if far larger than the PC market. Maybe not the market for any one console, that's debatable, but to say that the majority of gamers prefer the PC is ridiculous.
your idea of gaming economics is stuck on an ideology that the future of gaming lies within the purchase of 2 or more systems.
I never said that. The future of gaming has and will always be about making good games. A big part of that will obviously be bringing new customers to the market (ala the Wii), but the market wont be able to grow if it doesn't keep it's strong base of hardcore gamers. But this is way off topic.
Because as we move forward into the 21st century, people have less time to do things they actually want because they are working to pay whatever they owe, etc...
That's a sweeping generalization that has nothing to do with the topic and is a logical fallacy. You're suggesting that everyone out there works so much that they dont have time to play games. Are you suggesting the average person works more than 40 hours a week?
only a small percentage of gamers will actually go and spend 500 dollars just to be able to play one game for a platform that will be outdated with in 2-3 years.
You obviously dont pay much attention to the console market...or any attention really. A huge portion of gamers buy consoles, that's why there's a market for them, a much bigger market than the PC market. The consoles last at least 5 years and it's projected that this console generation will last closer to 10.
I agree completely. It costs relatively little for a company to port a game to another platform, and by failing to do so, LA loses a large market. More importantly, by failing to announce any games for the PC, they lose costomer loyalty; which will be very hard to reclaim. By not releasing anything for PC they change themselves as a company and must find someone else to play with. In addition, in the future, as console price climbs, owning multiples will eventually be impossible, making the PC the best way to play.