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Null ARC Commando

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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 27, 2007 5:51 PM   in response to: PapaThrawn in response to: PapaThrawn
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I said putting on armor not training at age 20. Plus
MC was not programmed to be special either. He also
was born special because he was DESTINED to become
THE MC. And he kinda good in everything unlike the
Nulls who were good at only one or two things like
maybe demolition and sniping. MC FTW! No flame
intended.

Do you even know what a null is? No offense but every thing u have posted about them has been completely wrong, do some research on them, or do not pretend to know what they do if you have no idea what they do. Ive already stated all of the specs on the nulls in this forum, and it comes back to the broad spectrum of their missions, and their combat proven record of all of those mission types.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 27, 2007 5:14 PM   in response to: General_Furious in response to: General_Furious
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I know He wasn't trained to do that specifically. But I say all the better. if a six year old can instinctively steal a weapon and hold his enemy at gun point it just go's to show how smart the clones really are. I would also like to mention that if he was biologically six he would have only been around three years because of there growth rate. So I might have used the word "trained" wrong but I still think I prove my point.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 25, 2007 9:45 AM   in response to: jedi master da ... in response to: jedi master da ...
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Ordo wasn't trained to do that... he did that reflexively... to protect his brothers from termination
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 21, 2007 4:56 PM   in response to: PapaThrawn in response to: PapaThrawn
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The Nulls have so much armor on them, I'm sure 2
rockets can just seek 'em 'n kill 'em. Plus clones
only live like, uhmm 25 years. And they were only
used for like 25 years. And they were not trained
since birth. If you have watched episode 2, they just
start putting on armor at, what? Age 20? MC owns. No
flame intended.

firstly clones do not only live 25 years. They grow twice as fast as a normal human which would only put them at about 50. people today average 75+. I'm sure star wars medical technology was advanced enough to keep people alive much longer then 75. And also clones weren't a bunch lazy undisciplined out of shape solders they where the best of the best and were probably very physically fit. Only 25? no way. Second they didn't just put on there armor or start training at age 20. they were being trained and familiarized with there armor practically as soon as they were born. combat was there life, nothing else. Saying that they first put there armor on in episode two is a bunch of garbage. in fact if you read republic command triple zero a few five or six year olds whatever it was disarmed the guards and held the cloners at gunpoint. How?s that for training.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 16, 2007 10:41 AM   in response to: PapaThrawn in response to: PapaThrawn
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MC's good at one thing... killing Aliens... and Flood... and the rest of it is being in the right place at the right (or wrong) time... I believe the Nulls were good with all weapons, and I wouldn't be surprised if a Null in the halo universe used the same tactics as MC.
PapaThrawn

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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 16, 2007 12:58 AM   in response to: Archangel847 in response to: Archangel847
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I said putting on armor not training at age 20. Plus MC was not programmed to be special either. He also was born special because he was DESTINED to become THE MC. And he kinda good in everything unlike the Nulls who were good at only one or two things like maybe demolition and sniping. MC FTW! No flame intended.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 10, 2007 10:49 AM   in response to: Sidion7 in response to: Sidion7
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The reason that you don't see any ARCs after the Clone Wars is because (1)they have mostly died out, and (2)the ones that are left become the Storm Commandos. You don't see the SPARTANS dieing out because the HALO universe hasn't gone on long enough. Star Wars spans a lot more time than HALO does, so you know, common sense would dictate that the Star Wars characters are going to die out just from old age. And mind-less robots! Excuse me, but you need to read some of the Clone Wars novels. The CIS was a lot more advanced than the Republic, mainly because they had more money to spend on research. I mean yeah the ARCs had to blow up the occasional mindless minion, but most of the time they were deep behind enemy lines and dealing with the latest killing machines the Seps could throw at them. Just look at the Banking Clan assassin droids. They womped on a couple of Jedi! So you can't say that all of the droids are cannon fodder. Look at the Grievous Guards too. They gave Anakin and Obi-Wan a run for their money. You can't tell me that they were mindless robots. And Star Wars isn't just the human race, it has thousands, maybe even millions of alien races in it as well. Quite a few of which are smarter than the humans, and more than one was on the Seps side. And the Arcs were pure Jango, who was about as special as you can get, so, no they did not get "programmed" to be special, they were born that way. Don't get me wrong, HALO rules, it just that Star Wars rules more.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 8, 2007 7:21 PM   in response to: PapaThrawn in response to: PapaThrawn
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The Nulls have so much armor on them, I'm sure 2
rockets can just seek 'em 'n kill 'em. Plus clones
only live like, uhmm 25 years. And they were only
used for like 25 years. And they were not trained
since birth. If you have watched episode 2, they just
start putting on armor at, what? Age 20? MC owns. No
flame intended.

Umm no offense but you need to do some research on the clones, specifically, training and armor. (;

PapaThrawn

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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 2, 2007 11:20 PM   in response to: General_Furious in response to: General_Furious
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The Nulls have so much armor on them, I'm sure 2 rockets can just seek 'em 'n kill 'em. Plus clones only live like, uhmm 25 years. And they were only used for like 25 years. And they were not trained since birth. If you have watched episode 2, they just start putting on armor at, what? Age 20? MC owns. No flame intended.
Sidion7

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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 2, 2007 8:04 PM   in response to: darthharin916 in response to: darthharin916
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Damn I forgot about the bugs, but anyways it would be one hell ofa fight though. But I think the MC would win.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 2, 2007 7:36 PM   in response to: Sidion7 in response to: Sidion7
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Well the ARCS dont just fight mindless robots like you say. They also fight an alien race, that are very smart and more advanced than the human race. So your information on that one is wrong =/. Im still convinced that all ARC troopers could put up a fight against MCs
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 2, 2007 7:11 PM   in response to: PapaThrawn in response to: PapaThrawn
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Ok, guys! I am a rock hard Star Wars fan. But I know the limits to the Star Wars characters. I am also a rock hard Halo fan, but I like Star Wars better. I've read all 4 books of Halo an played all the games. But heres the thing, MC could own anybody. As Dr.Hasley Said( shes the creator of the SPARTANS and the armor) "MC has never lost."
So my point is that te MC has never lost, the ARC troopers, have lost. You never see them again after the Clone Wars, and if there were any the Rebels killed them off. Did all the SPARTANS die out? NO THEY HAVENT! Everybody may think the MC is the last but theres 1 more and Dr.Hasley is still alive to create more. The ARCS are dead, and they are fighing mind-less robots. The MC has to go up against an alien race, that are very smart and more advanced than the human race. But that does not stop the MC from beatin the living hell out of the Covenant no it does not. The ARCS however ya they kick some a** man but there not as tough as you think they are. The MC was picked becasue he was already special in a way. Theyjust upgraded him a little bit. The ARCS, had to be programed to be special. The MC owns and ARCS wouldent have a chance.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: May 2, 2007 1:57 AM   in response to: Marine281 in response to: Marine281
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Considering pure combat skill in sniping or overall combat at all, a Null-Class ARC trooper was born and raised to fight, augmented with better reflexes and strength, combat prowess and a strategic mind set. There's no way possible a green thing that weighs over 1000lbs could catch up to something with a jetpack, in the worst case scenario the ARC trooper could just fly up to a really high location and snipe MC... There is no comparison.

-Marine281

MC does not have to catch up. If the Null gets a sniper that means that MC gets a weapon too. So MC could just shoot his backpack. And in halo. At the sniper ally. Most of the snipers were above him. So the MC could just snipe the Null if he was above him. Also, one guy posted about a branch hitting MC's head and knocking him out. How would a simple branch knock THE MC out. Sorry, I just like MC.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 25, 2007 1:28 PM   in response to: General_Furious in response to: General_Furious
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yea i never read the rc books but i read the halo books and blue team Linda sniper Kelly recon Fred second in comand john/MC leader of blue team
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 25, 2007 6:07 AM   in response to: Null ARC Commando in response to: Null ARC Commando
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Wait... There are no enemy snipers in RC, Halo 2 has an entire sniper alley, delta squad would be toast there, I don't know about Ordo.
If you think Halo is easy, play on legendary - thats where things get really fun and the enemies say random things that make your day.
I haven't read the Halo books yet, but I have read the RC books. The RC books show the commandos as weaker than in the game, and from what I've heard the Halo books make the spartans much stronger than what is seen in the game. Considering that the books are probably the accepted canon, I rest my case - for now.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 24, 2007 3:05 PM   in response to: Null ARC Commando in response to: Null ARC Commando
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Yeah, but that's gameplay. The books give a more accurate description of the enemies in both RC and Halo. Personally I think the Nulls would win, but I've already said my bit earlier, so I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 24, 2007 2:18 PM   in response to: D@rth*Pr0wE!!* in response to: D@rth*Pr0wE!!*
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Most of you guys kno my points and arguments, but I will say that I think that the enemies in RC are a lot harder, and more tactical than those of Halo. For instance In Halo they just come out and run at u and shoot, occasionally hiding behind something. In RC they use tactics, like room clearing, hand signals, defensive and offensive formations, and accurate choices of weapons based on range. One could fight and win all day at enemies that just run at you blindly.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 24, 2007 4:58 AM   in response to: General_Furious in response to: General_Furious
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Has to be Master Chief. If you have read the novels (both series, Halo and SWRC), think about it. Even when MC was still a teenager (maybe 12), he defeated (killed or broke some of their bones) 3 or 4 fully-grown men of the elite platoon (correct me if i'm wrong.. and i forgot the name). Even when he was still below 6, he was already taller, have faster reflexes, and stronger than any of his mates. And clones grow twice (or was it four times?) faster than the regular human being. meaning.. they'd die of old age faster and expected to have lesser years of combat experience.. compare that to master chief..

and also this, 1000 covenant troops against 4 spartans.. that's tough, that's strategy.. but that highlight has to be the previous one, wherein chief was able to defend himself against 4 rough, elite, fully-grown soldiers.. and btw, the spartans will fight to the finish.. like the ones were they got their name from..

my opinion.. but this ain't one-sided.. ordo is strong, highly-intelligent, and also has fast reflexes.. but the null arcs rely more on their instinct..

and once again.. my own opinion.. correct me if i'm wrong though
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 23, 2007 4:59 PM   in response to: General_Furious in response to: General_Furious
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I don't know I think definitely N-11 will kick Master Chief's shiny little butt. Ordo flattened Alpha-Class Arc Captain Maze. So Ordo or any of the Nulls will win especially Mereel with his Clip-Quad and Z-6 rotary blaster cannon.
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Re: Null ARC Trooper vs. Master Chief
Posted: Apr 23, 2007 6:14 AM   in response to: Marine281 in response to: Marine281
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first of all if MC is so high and mighty with his
little suit then why does he die so easily in the
game?

Difficult gameplay is needed in order to sell a game, do you really think a game would even sell if all there was to it was to just walk around punching and shooting things to death without any thought of your own safety? The books have a better description of MC's armor than the games, MC's armor is impenetrable by ballistic fire, but that much is needed in order to die when facing the flood.
And about SW weaponry, MC has the habit of picking up his dead opponent's weapons, so as long as MC gets his hands on a weapon of any sort - or not(he can still punch people to death), he is a foe to be feared - seriously.
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