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patpatboy2


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Re: Star Wars Battlefront III Speculation [TDE]
Posted: Apr 12, 2012 4:54 PM   in response to: patpatboy2 in response to: patpatboy2
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What I meant by my remark is that at the time of him saying that, Battlefront III WAS in production, and it WAS going to be released. Since that time, it has been canceled, meaning that what he said is irrelevant.

At any rate, Lucasarts has some games that they're revealing at E3. I think that for now, we're just going to have to wait until then and hope that Battlefront III is one of them.

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Posted: Apr 12, 2012 1:02 PM   in response to: patpatboy2 in response to: patpatboy2
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yeah that's what i am getting at,you don't say in reply to the man's suggestions in 2008 that it was definitely on its way...you say it probably was on its way,because we don't know which version he was talking about,the Free Radical one,the Slant Six one,the Rebellion one or maybe even the short time it was at Pandemic...so because i don't know where the project was at the time,i have to say it was probably on its way,it could very well of been inbetween developers at the time he said that...which means at the time he said that it was NOT on its way,so i said it was probably on its way
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Re: Star Wars Battlefront III Speculation [TDE]
Posted: Apr 12, 2012 12:50 PM   in response to: metallicorphan76 in response to: metallicorphan76
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Battlefront III wasn't "probably" on it's way. It was definitely on it's way. The new pre-alpha footage, and leaked alpha footage prove this.

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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 2:41 PM   in response to: metallicorphan76 in response to: metallicorphan76
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Yeah that's true. But I still think there's a correlation between stuff like this, the job hirings at LucasArts for a shooter game, and LucasArts' silence during this whole thing. Something tells me they're going by the phrase "we'll say something when we have something to say" type thing. They were obviously working on TOR for a long *** time, and Kinect too (going by that guy's statement) so maybe they put BF3 on the backburner after all of that bad luck with other developers until they finished their other big projects.
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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 2:06 PM   in response to: MadMonkey2000 in response to: MadMonkey2000
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MadMonkey2000 wrote:
Also, remember this? http://tinyurl.com/6shf3wl (click the first link)

Interesting that if you take a look at that list, this is what you get:

-KOTOR 3 (An MMO, and a joint project between Lucasarts and BioWare) - turned out to be The Old Republic

-Battlefront 3

-“The Official Indiana Jones” game - Could this be The Staff Of Kings that came out in 2009?

-“Another LEGO game based on the Indy universe” - Lego Indiana 2 came out in 2009

-“A lightsaber game for Wii (without lightsaber peripherals)” - Could be Star Wars Kinect? ("without peripherals")

Essentially, in one form or another, everything this guy said turned out to be true except for BF3. Interesting..

well all that was said in June 2008,at that time Star Wars Battlefront III probably WAS on its way,i mean Free Radical shut down in December 2008,so it could very well be the Free Radical version he was talking about(depending on how earlier LA took SWBF3 off them),and if not the FR version he is talking about then maybe the Slant Six version or what ended up as the Rebellion version that happened afterwards

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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 12:34 PM   in response to: bryanZ17 in response to: bryanZ17
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They don't answer me on Twitter but why? I'm just asking them for a Star Wars game?


http://www.youtube.com /user/TheSWBF3?feature=mhee

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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 12:23 PM   in response to: MadMonkey2000 in response to: MadMonkey2000
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Well, Pandemic was the original developer so it can't be them because after they closed the game was passed to Free Radical. And after Free Radical closed they game was passed to Rebellion which turned Battlefront 3 into Elite Squadron.

So perhaps Slant Six may be working on it. Unless the game was passed from Pandemic to Slant Six to Free Radical and then to Rebellion?
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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 10:10 AM   in response to: MadMonkey2000 in response to: MadMonkey2000
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Also, remember this? http://tinyurl.com/6shf3wl (click the first link)

Interesting that if you take a look at that list, this is what you get:

-KOTOR 3 (An MMO, and a joint project between Lucasarts and BioWare) - turned out to be The Old Republic

-Battlefront 3

-“The Official Indiana Jones” game - Could this be The Staff Of Kings that came out in 2009?

-“Another LEGO game based on the Indy universe” - Lego Indiana 2 came out in 2009

-“A lightsaber game for Wii (without lightsaber peripherals)” - Could be Star Wars Kinect? ("without peripherals")

Essentially, in one form or another, everything this guy said turned out to be true except for BF3. Interesting..
MadMonkey2000


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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 9:59 AM   in response to: vadersdmise_93 in response to: vadersdmise_93
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vadersdmise_93 wrote:

Wow, I can't believe you guys fell for this. The 4th tweet by Spark unlimited is fake, they never said that.

How can I tell?

Just look at the names, the real Spark Unlimited account is "Spark Unlimited." However the fake one that posted the 4th tweet is "sparkunlimited."

I recently just went through a lot of their tweets and never once have they responded with the name "sparkunlimited" but rather "Spark Unlimited."

So I'm calling possible Photoshop fail.

"Do or do not, there is no try."
- My Jedi Master, Yoda

"Look, I have your fodder!"
-Revan to Komad Fortuna

Most definitely. Not to mention the fact that Spark has outright said they're not working on Star Wars.

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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 8:51 AM   in response to: MadMonkey2000 in response to: MadMonkey2000
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Wow, I can't believe you guys fell for this. The 4th tweet by Spark unlimited is fake, they never said that.

How can I tell?

Just look at the names, the real Spark Unlimited account is "Spark Unlimited." However the fake one that posted the 4th tweet is "sparkunlimited."

I recently just went through a lot of their tweets and never once have they responded with the name "sparkunlimited" but rather "Spark Unlimited."

So I'm calling possible Photoshop fail.

"Do or do not, there is no try."
- My Jedi Master, Yoda

"Look, I have your fodder!"
-Revan to Komad Fortuna

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Re: Star Wars Battlefront III Speculation [TDE]
Posted: Apr 11, 2012 8:33 AM   in response to: metallicorphan76 in response to: metallicorphan76
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metallicorphan76 wrote:
good post Monkey

I am wondering if it is Pandemic he was talking about,didn't someone ask the Ex-Pandemic guys about SWBF3 at some convention and they said "please don't mention that" after looking very disappointed,meaning something bad happened with them and SWBF3...and Slant Six haven't closed(unless he was talking about Free Radical again,but it seems he is talking about another dev that closed)

Then again,wasn't the game that Free Radical was working on get moved over to become a PSP game?(which obviously would of used a different game engine like he mentioned)

All in all,i find wanting a SWBF game for this gen is a bit silly now,we have about a year and a half left of this gen,so i think at this point i would rather have the game for Next Gen,unless by some miracle the game was to be released soon

Yeah, I think what happened was the assets were passed around a bit after Battlefront 3 was cancelled and Rebellion took some of the things and put them into Elite Squadron. Obviously not the engine, but the level designs and stuff. I seem to remember something about Slant Six's battlefront project going by the wayside too, if they ever actually had it.

But I agree with you. It'll either be the swan song for this gen or maybe a launch title for the next-gen. That being said, both Microsoft and Sony have expressed that they aren't conentrating on the next-gen yet, they won't even be announced this year (apparently). So I think there's still time for LucasArts to make a game for this gen. Then maybe start working on BF4 for the next-gen based on how well BF3 does on this one. Who knows.

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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 7:31 AM   in response to: MadMonkey2000 in response to: MadMonkey2000
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good post Monkey

I am wondering if it is Pandemic he was talking about,didn't someone ask the Ex-Pandemic guys about SWBF3 at some convention and they said "please don't mention that" after looking very disappointed,meaning something bad happened with them and SWBF3...and Slant Six haven't closed(unless he was talking about Free Radical again,but it seems he is talking about another dev that closed)

Then again,wasn't the game that Free Radical was working on get moved over to become a PSP game?(which obviously would of used a different game engine like he mentioned)

All in all,i find wanting a SWBF game for this gen is a bit silly now,we have about a year and a half left of this gen,so i think at this point i would rather have the game for Next Gen,unless by some miracle the game was to be released soon
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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 5:58 AM   in response to: agent_freeman in response to: agent_freeman
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I e-mailed Chris Matthews, the guy who posted those Battlefront 3 images recently: http://www .behance.net/gallery/Starwars-BattleFront-3/3246397

And he messaged me back today. Here's what I said:

Hi there,
I just wanted to say I love the artwork you did on the assets for the Battlefront 3 project. I'm looking into getting into game design, and I'm a huge fan of Star Wars as well. The pictures you posted were pretty recent too, does that mean you're still working on the game? I'd love to see some more pictures of your work regarding the project, as well as maybe hear about your experiences working on it!

Thanks a lot, hope to hear back from you,

Alex

And here was his response that came very quickly:

Hey dude -
Thanks for the message. After Free Radical closed the project was handed to another developer without the game engine (That we owned) to be finished. I understand that company closed before it was completed.

Those images are pretty old and unfortunately for most of us who worked on that game we have very little to show for it now.

Still - almost everyone involved have moved onto bigger and better things. It's a hard industry to be in. Better start getting good fella

Chris


Interesting. It seems like he's either referring to Pandemic or Slant Six, both who were rumoured to be working on the game after Free Rad. went under. I guess that means CrytekUK aren't making it Maybe LucasArts is doing it in-house...If if you know anything about game design, how long would it take to create a new engine but with all of the assets still intact? I know we all know that the Free Radical game is supposedly dead, but I still don’t think LucasArts would just throw away an almost finished game, at least design-wise (they’d have to make a new engine I guess – maybe that’s why they’re taking so long, they want to get the space – ground tech right?)

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Posted: Apr 11, 2012 4:06 AM   in response to: Delta-038 Boss in response to: Delta-038 Boss
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looking at spark's history I'm kinda relieved that they're not making it. However I do really want this game.
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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 11:28 PM   in response to: Grievous117 in response to: Grievous117
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Grievous117 wrote:
Is it wrong to say its not fair?

There was never any concrete proof that labeled Spark as making SWBF3 100%, nor was there EVER any official confirmation.

This is why you take rumors with a grain of salt.

That being said, LucasArts still has 3 unannounced projects in the works. So who knows.

P.S. This is a little off topic, but after seeing the screenshots - I'm actually quite looking foward to LP3.

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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 9:21 PM   in response to: MadMonkey2000 in response to: MadMonkey2000
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I don't know what to think, other than I put too much faith in Spark being the ones to finally bring Battlefront III to light. I guess I will try to figure out whats wrong with the internet on my desktop computer and just get Battlefront II for PC....its been so long since I played it since the Original Xbox LIVE was shut down.

Is it wrong to say its not fair?
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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 6:58 PM   in response to: bryanZ17 in response to: bryanZ17
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Just thought I'd repost what I posted over at the BF3.net forum:

A while back LucasArts was rumored to be making three games, an FPS game, an aerial combat simulator game, and an RPG. Now we're seeing listings for an action game and an RPG game that LucasArts might be unveiling at E3 this year. What we know for sure, LucasArts will be showing SOMETHING at E3.

Based on those listings, they're making two games, which is different from those original rumors. BUT, if one was to put the FPS (which can sometimes be an umbrella term for shooters in general) and the aerial combat together, viola, we get Battlefront. The RPG that was rumored a while back could be what they're working on with the Wii U. Who knows, like many of you, I think that an MMO for the Wii U is unlikely.

That being said, let's just say hypothetically that the MMO listing for Wii U is a mistake. Where would that leave us? With an action game by LucasArts across all platforms. Now going by what the Wii U is supposedly doing, which is getting all of the third parties to start making games for Nintendo again (like the good ol' days) it would make sense to have a new Star Wars game that's multi-platform be on the Wii U, which will be able to handle just as much as the PS3 and 360 can. Think about this through the eyes of LucasArts. Nintendo wants third party developers, they're going to have a huge launch (Nintendo always does) and what better way to make some money off that than to have a Star Wars game come out for a new system, as well as current ones?

There isn't much evidence to show that it could be Battlefront, if anything it might be something completely different. Maybe it IS some kind of MMO, who knows. BUT, with all of the recent Free Radical pre-alpha stuff coming out, and some alpha-stuff as well (those new screenshots), one can't help but wonder why all of that is coming out NOW. Has it anything to do with the recent outcry from the fanbase regarding Battlefront 3? Perhaps. Maybe it has something to do with that they're planning on announcing at E3 this year.

Another fact of the matter is, one group has been super silent about this since 2009, and that's Free Radical, who eventually turned into Crytek UK. Could they be making the game? They haven't really talked about anything since the leaked footage and the downfall of the company. Timesplitters 4 also died with them, but just a year ago things like this started cropping up:
http://www.videogamer.com/news/x box_720 ... ard_2.html

Does that mean that Free Radical's properties went to Crytek? Would this include Battlefront 3? I'm sure LucasArts would have to make another deal with them or something, but who's to say they didn't? Free Radical also said after they went under that all of the tech and assets died with them, but there was never any proof of that other than the word of an employee or two, who weren't even that high up in the company anyway. If there's one thing we know for sure, it's that any Lucas brand doesn't go into business without knowing that they'll have FULL ownership over any Star Wars related property. Maybe when Free Radical went under LucasArts seized the unfinished game and is now finishing it in-house, or maybe they've passed it onto Crytek UK. Timesplitters 4 is still being made (maybe..) so many Battlefront 3 is too?

One thing I found interesting is that the recent screenshots of the Free Radical game:
http://www.behance.net/gallery/S tarwars ... -3/3246397
Were posted only two months ago, and if you look at the location of where the poster is, he's in the UK, same place as Crytek UK (obviously).

Anyway, these are just some of the things keeping me going after the Spark debacle.
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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 5:11 PM   in response to: Delta-038 Boss in response to: Delta-038 Boss
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You know guys, Im disappointed that it wasn't BF3, but I love LP so much that i have mixed feelings...

and to anyone wondering were swordplay comes into this - in the second one, it had the gun sword and the mechs had swords so maybe thats what they meant. Plus, the looks of the new mech in the trailer make it look like it was done with kinect motion when he was punching. but I don't know 100%, but either way I'm happy it was at least a game i could still get excited for :D
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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 4:42 PM   in response to: Delta-038 Boss in response to: Delta-038 Boss
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Am I the only one who thinks Slant Six may have or may be working on Battlefront 3? :\
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Posted: Apr 10, 2012 4:08 PM   in response to: ShadowAura97 in response to: ShadowAura97
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There's been rumors for a while that they're hiring for an FPS, an aerial combat game, and an open-world RPG. That's three games, but if you were to mix the first two you have a Battlefront game (I know BF is a TPS, but FPS is often used as an umbrella term).

There's also links everywhere about this:
http://www.gamingtruth.com/2012/04/06/lucasarts-to-showcase-wii-u-mmo-at-e3 /

Which could be rumored RPG. Being the hopeful BF3ian I am, somehow I feel like the MMO thing might be a mistake, and that BF3 might just be a launch game for Wii U. The Wii U is changing Nintendo in that it's bringing a ton of third party dev's to make games for it (http://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/List_of_Wii_U_games) and perhaps LucasArts is one of them. But let's be real, why would LucasArts be interested in releasing another MMO when TOR is still in full swing? Doesn't make any sense.

Either way, it looks like Lucas Arts will be showing SOMETHING at E3, they have a booth on the floor and everything. I'd find it very interesting if they actually released an MMO on the Wii U that we haven't heard about yet...somehow I doubt they'd put TOR on the Wii U, it's just too big and not really ideal, but who knows. Like I said earlier, although Spark is out of the race, I still have hopes for E3 and Celebration VI.

Edited by: MadMonkey2000 on Apr 10, 2012 4:11 PM
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